Daniel, you've probably heard the expression, 'knowledge is power' right? Well, really knowledge is potential power. I think just about every single person in the world knows what real health is and what it takes to achieve it. Without going into the details of SHR (Spartan Health Regime) cos everyone here knows it, most people would know that they're health could be a hell of a lot better if they increased the amount of fruit and vegies they ate, didn't drink soft drinks, didn't eat fast food etc.., plus did at least some exercise every day. Don't you agree? Even just doing those basics without going the extra distance that we Spartans choose to, would seriously increase most people's level of health. But they do??? No, they have the potential power to seriously enhance their lives if they want to, but most choose not to use that power. Before any of us Spartans chose to use our power, most of us were looking for something to unleash that power, a trigger if you like to unleash it, and in the SHR we found that trigger.

So often we'll hear people complain, like that post 'what separates us from them', people that don't really want to change, but like to think that by saying they want to change is good enough. Occasionally though, you will come across people, who do seriously want to change, it won't be that relative at the Christmas party, or someone you meet at a party, it'll be someone who is already trying to change, you'll meet them going for a run in the local park, or doing laps at the local pool or some such place, which indicates to you that they are serious. These are the people who I personally am happy to spend half an hour or however long they want to explaining the health and fitness regime that I follow because I know that its not falling on deaf ears. So to answer your question, I don’t think your selfish at all, but you probably haven’t met anyone yet who really wants to change, but when you do, don’t be surprised if you find yourself taking the time out to help them because you know that they really want to change and that you can help them.

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I don’t tell anyone about it. If people ask stuff, ill tell a bit them about my diet and some other stuff, but not the whole hog. If anyone seems really interested in what I have to say, them Ill mention the SHR (Spartan Health Regime) and tell them how to buy it. But I only know 1 person that has bought it from my recommendation.
And that doesn’t phase me one bit!

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I'm with you guys also, had it over 2 years and still haven’t told anyone. One of my mates recently asked me a few questions about health and fitness and I explained, I think he is serious, so I may mention it to him, but that would be a first.

Is this selfish? Not at all, although when it comes down to it again its a matter of opinion.

Does it make me a bad person? Hell no!!!

Or does it make me determined in my effort, conscious and smart? Yep i reckon it makes you smart, for trying to stay ahead of the population. Good on ya!

Willing to exploit an advantage in order to help achieve my life goals? Yeah but who wouldn't?? I think we were all sceptical as f%$k about buying the program, but we were all searching for answers, and we found some.

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All very true. I think Nizzavich said it best and this is true in my experience also. Use yourself as an example and if others want to follow then they will. If not, don't spend any time worrying about them, and don't feel bad about not telling them about the truth either.

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Hi Ranger, I agree with you, if people are really interested they will order the program or find it on the Internet. I had 1 nice experience with a young boy in my gym: I saw him not getting good results and showed him a few pages from the SHR (Spartan Health Regime) about weightlifting and the food. He was very interested, wrote certain things down etc. Now, 3 month later I see that he has become much stronger, especially in his arms, chest and shoulders and he has gotten much more confidence and does his routines according to the SHR, as far as I can see. And he was a tiny, very shy, petit boy. So sometimes, when somebody is really interested, a miracle can happen. But that it helped him so much in a psychological sense is so amazing to me. I think he has ordered the program, at least he looks and acts as if he lives by it. His mum and 2 brothers had also made my observations. He is finally growing up, from a boy into a man!
But most of the time people will listen politely to your advice and go on doing with what they were always doing, so I hardly ever make the effort to convince anybody anymore.

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If you preach, most people won't listen.

I agree with the others; if someone’s asks me, I'll pass on a bit of advice. If they come back for more, and I see they're serious, I'll tell them about the SHR.

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Just do what you have to do and if people ask, answer the specific question, that’s it. Its up to them whether they want to learn more or not....Remember the saying "when the student is ready, the teacher appears".....

I really have no time for people who just ask questions and not bother to give me a chance to explain everything. If they know it all, then why bother in the first place.

Don't ever ever bother with people who are not interested, you will always be superior to them. They can keep complaining and whining.

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Time to throw a few thorns amongst the roses...

First and foremost, I heartily disagree with you, Daniel, on your idea of not telling people because you therefore have an advantage. I guess it's instinctual, you're trying to protect an asset that makes you a better person.
However, I think very lowly on such a view in light of the world we live in. Cats might like it, they're individual predators. However, Human beings are very social animals, and you must realise that concealing information from more of the polis, the people, will only harm the whole. Most of the time, companies and other large organisations are the ones keeping things to themselves, but we need to maintain attitudes at the grassroots level to make any sort of change.
Those that act only out of self-justification (ie what does it do for me?) will be treated such in return. If you try to help people there will often be someone around to help you when you need it.
Don't worry, this isn't so much an attack on you as that part of your views, and those who expressed similar after you.

HOWEVER...
I do not preach the SHR. I do tell people about it in one of three ways, though.
1) People ask about my life story, I tell them. The SHR has played a significant role in that.
2) Someone buys a coke when I'm giving them a lift, etc... after five minutes from me they're not inclined to drink any more of it.
3) If there's an ad on TV or radio, etc. I'll usually respond with "Bullshit!"

I have to agree that you can batter away at people's skulls all day and make no progress. However, I think that it's incredibly important to provide an alternate viewpoint to many 'accepted truths', ie fat is bad, etc. People may not agree with you, then walk away and think it over, for days, weeks, years, etc. The next time you meet them, you may have had a profound impact on their thinking, often without even knowing it.

Remember that other people, even if not Spartans, are human beings, a lot like you. Some of them may be holding back in chains of their own or others' making. For this reason, we need to be able to at least try to help people out of it. We cannot help them all, but for every single person who benefits, so does our whole race.

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Just because im guarded about the regime, doesnt mean I take on this attitude in all aspects of life. I consider myself a very compassionate person. But 'trade' secrets only get disclosed to closest family and friends. Sorry. That's just the way it is.

Thanks again though for everyones comments...

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I have told several people about it, many of which were really interested and even bought the regime.

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I agree guys think about it alot of people do know about our way of life but its just to hard for them and they can't hack it , it will be a long time before the mass of society is ready for it .

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Daniel, in response to your original question, I dont preach the regime. However, when someone approaches me looking for information, I will give them some basics and tell them where they can get the SHR (Spartan Health Regime). I dont tell them everything about it because I have found that people then approach it with a closed mind and are never really keen on hearing what is said in the manual. They seem to already know everything and know that I am wrong about everything. Most of the time, people seem to approach things more open mindedly and willing to learn only when they have risked something to get that info. ie. I know I only REALLY listened to talk about health when I forked out the $$$ on something that could have been a complete ripoff (it definitely wasn't though), yet I had heard most of the info before for free and never took much notice of it.

I know some people will think that I should tell them all about it when I am asked, but here is an example of what I am trying to say above. My brother is always talking about getting fit and I have written programs for him, given him info, you name it. He came to me a few weeks ago again wanting me to write a program so I said "I'll write one for you when you can do 30 pushups". This may sound mean, but now that he had to make an effort to get the info, he has actually listened to what I've said and taken a bigger interest in his health and fitness and has now been working out longer than ever before.

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Hi Everyone,

This is my first post in a long time so its good to be back.

Scotty, I agree with you. For people to value the information in the SHR they must have some sort of investment in it. In most cases it must be monetary, however I like your idea of the 30 push-ups minimum.
Advice that costs nothing is taken as just that... worthless information.

I doubt that SHR will ever spread to the masses because the majority of unfit and obese people are all looking for the new fad diets and pills to get thin. They are looking for somebody else to do their push ups for them. They all know deep down inside that the way to get into shape is healthy eating and exercise. This is common knowledge to the masses. But do they follow it. No. Every year the average person is becoming fatter and fatter and the fast food industry is becoming richer and richer.

So are you giving up an "advantage" to someone by telling them about SHR? I don't believe so. For a start I don't believe that I am in competition with anyone, and secondly if I do tell them about it, I find I don't get into the specifics because they start to switch off as they believe "they have heard it all before". As the Zen story says, their cup is full.

Is it selfish not to tell people. It depends on your intention. But then again if you want to get down to the nitty gritty, all actions are selfish. For example, if you give $10 to a beggar. You do it to make yourself feel good. That can be considered selfish, even though you are acting charitable.